(AUDIO) Jennifer Tickle Talks Values, Visas, and Ethical AI in Siena, Italy

What happens when you ask an 11-year-old student, “Who do you want to be?” instead of “What do you want to be?” 🤔 In this episode of An Imperfect Leader, we sit down with Jennifer Tickle, former Head of School at the International School of Siena, Italy (now the Head of School in Monza), for a candid conversation about values, vulnerability, and the complex systems of international school leadership.

Here are some themes from our discussion:

1️⃣ Define the “Who” Before the “What” Rather than relying on inherited values, Jen led a collaborative appreciative inquiry process with students, parents, and teachers to discover who they wanted to be. This deep community alignment centered on three core anchors: Respect, Integrity, and Compassion.

2️⃣ The 9-Month Recruitment Reality Check (Systems Thinking) In an honest “After Action Review,” Jen shares the raw reality of trying to recruit a highly qualified, non-European physics teacher without fully anticipating the bilateral visa challenges of her host country.

3️⃣ Reframing AI as a “Library Assistant” How do we teach critical thinking when answers are just a click away? In her Grade 7 music class, Jen teaches students to use AI ethically (not to write the work, but to act as a digital “library assistant” guiding them to the right book on the shelf).

True leadership isn’t about being perfect. It’s about having the humility to admit mistakes, learn alongside your community, and lead relationally.

🎧 Tune in to the full episode (And yes, you’ll hear about Peter’s newfound obsession with padel!).

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Music for An Imperfect Leader was written and arranged by Ian Varley.

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